S01 E38
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Can you read? Do you like music? Well, then, this episode is for you, as Andrew and Sam show off that their basic education still goes to good use in the form of showing off that they can read books. Looks like we’ve got some readers here, as Bill Hicks said. What do you want to read for?
This episode, we discuss our favourite music biography-orientated books. We talk about whether they’ve changed our relationship to the music, and some of what makes and breaks these books. Andrew also has a new introduction for the podcast, which in itself may need an introduction.
We have introduced a correspondence section at the end of each episode, so contact us by emailing beatmotel@lawsie.com
Andrew Riff of the Week – Bert Jansch Bittern
Sam Riff of the Week: Mary Halverson – Amaryllis
Episode tracks
- Cream – Crossroads
- Jackson 5 – I Want You Back
- Pentangle – Reflection
- Guns N’Roses – My Michelle
- Blur – Won’t Do It
- Queen – Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy
- PiL – Poptones
- Primus – Jerry Was a Racecar Driver
Shonky AI Transcript
00:50.94
Dr Patio Rage
Hind Penis behind penis.
00:54.80
Andrew Culture
Yeah, hind Penis I was trying to I wanted something that sounded rude but but wasn’t all that shocking to sort of slightly leave in the ah disclaimer there.
01:05.71
Dr Patio Rage
Fair enough I guess I should say hello welcome to big motel. We’re taking a bit of a change in the books this time and it’s a short one so we just probably to get to the point of things. Um I’m Sam with me today is our friend Andrew say hello Andrew thank you? um.
01:17.73
Andrew Culture
Hello Hello Andrew
01:22.76
Dr Patio Rage
And hello Andrew and what’s the theme today. Andrew.
01:25.75
Andrew Culture
The theme is base how low can you go in brackets morally I Just want to point out I’m afraid the new sign hasn’t arrived So I’m still using the old one there she can probably hear on the microphone New microphone.
01:39.89
Dr Patio Rage
Ah, New microphone and it’s not. It’s a bit further from your face so we can see the beautiful, the beautiful features have. We don’t have time to go into what have has happened to your tooth. Um.
01:54.80
Andrew Culture
1 again and bill just mentioned that that this is on Youtube as well now so that there is visual gags. Um, ah no visual knob gags hopefully but.
02:06.37
Dr Patio Rage
Ah, and yeah so I took that as base riffs and you took a bit of a different direction in some ways.
02:15.30
Andrew Culture
I Ah I don’t know if I did it it it possibly came about because you and I are both bassists.
02:20.81
Dr Patio Rage
Yes, I really struggled narrowing narrowing it down to four tracks I think this is this may be the first of many base themed um base themed episodes. Yeah.
02:32.80
Andrew Culture
Yeah, why not? yeah see I’m um because you will host I’m not gonna prompt you at all I’m just gonna let you let you do it.
02:36.20
Dr Patio Rage
We get on with bitman.
02:41.38
Dr Patio Rage
So riff of the week we’re gonna start with yours. Do you want to should I just play it and then we’ll get to it.
02:47.47
Andrew Culture
Yeah, play it and then I’ll explain it.
03:20.86
Dr Patio Rage
Can I ask before we go into that ah is the bleeps and skipping coming across to you.
03:27.95
Andrew Culture
The bleeps and crackles are ah there but it won’t be on the final recording that that’s that’s just what we’re hearing the listeners shouldn’t hear that.
03:29.99
Dr Patio Rage
Okay, sure. Okay, good to know because otherwise I need to figure out another way of recording these teething issues anyway. Andrew go go go go.
03:43.26
Andrew Culture
That is burt yach um in he was in another band called Pentangle but this is from a solo album of his called and I know they it sounds so so metal doesn’t it um another a solo album he did in the 70 s called.
03:59.96
Andrew Culture
Shit I can’t remember what’s called that track’s called bit that track’s called Bitten though and I chose it because for 1 thing I’ve been choosing a lot of metal recently for my riff of the week and I thought the simplicity of that is so wonderful. It is just a double base say on brand double base.
04:00.10
Dr Patio Rage
As an interesting name.
04:19.24
Andrew Culture
And guitar but the way they weave around each other I just think is is really charming. It’s it’s got quite a lot of both to it for something that Burt Yaanks was you know considered folk what considered folk he was he was folk. Ah I don’t mean he was spoke as in as as in he was human.
04:25.53
Dr Patio Rage
Yeah.
04:38.16
Andrew Culture
Ah, to just say this is this the earliest in the morning we’ve recorded a podcast so far, not sure. Um I’m not sure I’m all that with it. Yeah I do have coffee though.
04:42.38
Dr Patio Rage
Yes, firing not firing all cylinders. Um, yeah, it was your choices this week surprised me and this was one of those. Um there was ah. Surprised me. But um, I’ve taken the same sort of thing I’ve I’ve thought that um you know it’s sort of I think yeah I do lean ah to metal quite a lot at the time at the moment which is mostly reflective of that. Not my. Musical taste. But in a way the musical media that I I just sort of find myself browsing when I’m bored. Um, and I’ve sort of decided to challenge myself to not pick so much metal and also sort of try to emphasize other aspects of music I like and with that. Ah, we’re going to start with my track all the week which is this okay.
05:39.49
Andrew Culture
Ah, nice.
06:04.85
Dr Patio Rage
So that was if you want to guess that was Mary Halverson who is a New York yeah she she’s played with she’s playeded with musician. She would have heard of she’s she was in a band with um.
06:09.68
Andrew Culture
I God Fuck knows it was wonderful though. Ah hope no I wouldn’t have got that.
06:24.60
Dr Patio Rage
Trevor Dunne who was the bassist in Melvin’s for for bit and also I mean who hasn’t played but a bass in Melvin’s for bit. Um but he was also in Mr. Bungle I believe and a few other sort of of those avant cardde but he’s ah he’s sort of I think his choice of.
06:38.95
Andrew Culture
Ah, right.
06:42.97
Dr Patio Rage
But medium is for his own expressionist jazz and she’s an experimental New York shas guitarist. She’s written some she did an album a few years ago where she got Robert Wyatt to come out for a timement and sing on a few songs and yeah she put out an album I think 2 albums last year 1 which is sort of with a more traditional jazz guitar setup and the other one which is with a more with like a chamber small chamber ensemble but chamber pod small shape just her or let small chamber pot.
07:09.68
Andrew Culture
I Think it was a Chamber port For some reason.
07:19.23
Dr Patio Rage
And yeah and I was just listening around I was listening to that music whilst I was hacking away at some work and it just hit me. It was really good. Ah and the album is which is what ah called Amarella I think something like that is excellent, Really really good.
07:29.26
Andrew Culture
Um, it’s so it’s a very nice one.
07:38.93
Dr Patio Rage
1 of the best I think so here.
07:43.62
Andrew Culture
Um, a of flower sorry somebody somebody’s just walked in the room. Hello Richard thank you Richard so we’re recording at the baby um carry on you’re the host Sam keep it moving long.
07:53.22
Dr Patio Rage
I am the host I’m well no I know I’m the host but I ah feel feel Ru to interrupt when you’re being interrupted and trying to do with it.
07:58.30
Andrew Culture
Ah, you’re you’re so polite that you’re in Helsinki I’m in Ipswich and if you don’t want to be impolite to the person who can’t hear who’s in the room with me that is that is super polite. You’re very lovely.
08:05.41
Dr Patio Rage
Well I didn’t want to be I don’t know I can’t talk when someone else is I can’t think so clearly when someone else is doing something else. So.
08:15.64
Andrew Culture
But I think ought to just now Richard can you come say hello please hello this my friend Richard in short. Yeah, yeah, so so podcast listeners this is Richard. Who who was her ah know you from loads of bands stay disclosed with a penny red. We were a penny red I was in penny road yes, you were in penny red yeah, and there you go sogo that that’s probably not going to mean so much to anyone who’s not watching on Youtube but that was Richard. Thank you as our first guest.
08:35.56
Dr Patio Rage
Thank you.
08:41.73
Dr Patio Rage
Okay, so we get up. That’s our first our first guest between you and I yet you’ve done loads of guests. But anyway, ah first route first first base of the week goes to this cold volumes gone down.
08:56.20
Andrew Culture
Just funny your I’m just I’m I’m really excited because the the reason we switched like this is I always knew Sam’s choices so with switch oh fine.
09:24.20
Andrew Culture
Um, but.
09:33.28
Andrew Culture
I’d be amazed if anyone doesn’t know what that is a clearly what.
09:35.84
Dr Patio Rage
I Had no idea my mom was my mom. My mom was a big fan of that band. But I I and she saw them at the she always? Yeah I think she saw them at the ah Ra aber Hall and and ah.
09:39.25
Andrew Culture
I am genuinely surprised by that.
09:49.47
Andrew Culture
That’s where that recording’s from I’m pretty sure.
09:53.25
Dr Patio Rage
Well, she saw them at least once. But yeah and she liked to con about Chinja Baker I don’t know why you see the Chinja Baker documentary is brilliant but who is that.
10:00.80
Andrew Culture
That was cream with with crossroads and I chose it because for 1 thing I think it might be the first. The first song I ever heard that I I realized what bass guitar even was we’re listening to it at friends of the family and my dad. The the dad of the family was a bassist and my dad put that on when when used to take music to other people’s houses back in the eighteenth century and he said listen to this bass playing and I was like what’s bass playing because obviously on that track. Especially that bit a lot of people would just hear the guitar. And that’s really it. It’s so dominant but really Eric Clapton’s guitar there Eric Clapton the racist wankers guitar there is just doing widly widly widly all over the place but the bass playing there is just bloody wonderful. It’s is.
10:48.89
Dr Patio Rage
He’s he’s doing a really nice job between going off in his own and then holding it back. He sort of keeps he he sort of goes he goes. He doesn’t venture too far from the the source but he eventual he does venture from it and then he just sort of.
10:54.86
Andrew Culture
Um.
11:04.60
Dr Patio Rage
Sort of locking it all in and it’s quite someone said to me that if you want to listen to sort of the how to listen to chairs not said to me this is a thing I’ve said before um Adam Needley who’s a Youtube and other really informative very well ah red.
11:24.20
Dr Patio Rage
Jazz Musician or jazz fusion musician said if you said in some one of the episodes that if you want to sort of understand bass the jazz listens to bass first and that’s sort of what he’s doing is that he’s holding was Ginger baked is doing driving everything. The bass is holding everything together.
11:33.38
Andrew Culture
When.
11:43.27
Dr Patio Rage
And he’s doing a really good chop of that. It’s like it’s more in a way. It’s more jazz than is what’s jazz rock in a way isn’t it.
11:45.92
Andrew Culture
With it. The other thing that kind of makes it slightly jazzy is that he’s he was also mucking about with the rhythm. You know obviously say ginger baker on drums driving it forward is Jack Bruce the bassist and just in case, anyone didn’t know shouldn’t you made it everyone would and this little bits straight did did did did did did did did did.
11:52.44
Dr Patio Rage
1
12:02.71
Dr Patio Rage
Met.
12:04.57
Andrew Culture
Do do and it just the interplays just lovely I don’ the rest of cream are find a bit twey and a bit annoying but that track is just so great. It’s it’s not there only. So it’s a I wouldn’t say it’s a classical song but it’s certainly 1920 s or sort of depression era blues track.
12:11.86
Dr Patio Rage
Yeah, and.
12:22.62
Dr Patio Rage
Fair enough.
12:24.37
Andrew Culture
Generally cream didn’t wander that far away from that. But right so your first choice I’m quite excited because I’ve got no idea what it is no idea at all ah would not have guessed that.
12:27.90
Dr Patio Rage
My first choice.
12:59.80
Dr Patio Rage
I mean how good is that baseline that’s Donald duck and the Mickey Mouse 5
13:01.59
Andrew Culture
Is that Donald duck. The base is Don Donald in brackets duck done.
13:11.31
Dr Patio Rage
No, no, no, that is actually the guy I looked into this. The guy is ah he is called I got my notes up. Ah he is called Wilton Felder he is a he he was like a session.
13:20.45
Andrew Culture
Wow.
13:26.51
Dr Patio Rage
Bassist and a professional jazz Sox saxophonist.
13:31.70
Andrew Culture
God just not content with just one instrument but ah Donald duck done was he was one of the motown mostly shoals bases wasn’t he.
13:35.18
Dr Patio Rage
Yeah, this guy this guy was one of the motown ones he was like the west coast Motown guy in the sixty s I think whereas and but the the other one is James Jameson and you know like baseline wise I was gonna. Was about to go for James Jamon but I you know when I was in my early twenty s I went and took some base lessons precisely for the reason to get a well you get this? This guy is ah he’s he’s um, but I went to get them precisely for the reason that um.
14:01.59
Andrew Culture
I didn’t know you could get base lessons.
14:13.94
Dr Patio Rage
Played a lot of metal I played a lot punk and a scar and I knew I knew how to do that and knew those ideas whereas I sort of went to expand my palette and that was one of the first things he introduced me to and it’s It’s the timing of it is so precise and it’s it’s not bang. It’s sort of.
14:31.48
Andrew Culture
Um.
14:33.91
Dr Patio Rage
It’s not even on the one and it’s the 1 hand one a e one and e one a and e so it’s like on the point you know it’s on the on the point of the half step the half note. Yeah um, and and.
14:46.40
Andrew Culture
That’s same with reggae isn’t it regga’s reggae sort of behind the beat slightly.
14:52.77
Dr Patio Rage
Yeah, it’s just such a solid solid Baseline and um I went for classic baselines because I couldn’t I base I went for my choice my way of choosing stuff was baselines that I sing to myself because I played them so much.
15:06.20
Andrew Culture
Ah, well that that one’s brilliant you but you’ve picked up a really interesting point that I nearly chose a giran duran track now not a fan of Duran Duran not fan of Jackson 5 or Michael Jackson really although growing up in the 80 s it was hard to to avoid you could buy that but of them. Bad album. You could buy anywhere. They literally sold it newsags just it went far beyond record shops. Anyone who who had a place that could take money would try and sell that but gerran Duran I’ve realized recently the base playing on a lot of Giran Duran tracks is phenomenally good.
15:28.88
Dr Patio Rage
Dip.
15:44.50
Andrew Culture
Just really, really good and in my head I’ve just put the connection together between a band that we’re going to play later on and Duran Duran’s bass playing style I can’t remember the guy’s name but let’s call him Bobby Bobby Bass
15:54.72
Dr Patio Rage
Fair enough. but but I would like to say ah I grew up on Michael Jackson and um I have a deep deep love for mostly sixties Motown stuff. Um I just think and also the bass player James Jameson was such an amazing musician. It said that he they were jazz musicians. They all just sort of off on the offhour. They all just went down and made some more money playing jazz. Ah and also that’s what they sort of like to do but it was said but it was sort of the idea. Apparently the idea was that when everybody was given their music James Jamieson could read it so quickly. But he used to play practical jokes and everybody else was they were trying to get together with their own charts. Um, you know, no because but he was so good anyway, next track because we’re on a time limit.
16:34.71
Andrew Culture
No one likes sir the bassist playing jokes.
16:43.53
Andrew Culture
Oh yeah, this is a short.
17:15.15
Andrew Culture
So I chose that I mean because there is just based so it’s quite blatant but that is Pentangle so the band chap I mentioned earlier Bert Yanch that’s his band and that clip took a little bit of finding because it’s from a it’s from. A um, a live performance that was recorded in a studio and it’s it’s it’s not on the standard song the song’s called reflection the bass playing is still good on it. But there’s a bunch of stuff started popping up on Youtube in the last few years where people have are doing 4 k transfers.
17:44.94
Dr Patio Rage
A.
17:47.80
Andrew Culture
So when things were originally filmed if they were filmed on film. The quality’s still like much much higher than than even four k and this this is what kickstarted the Pink Floyd episode that I did yonx and yonx ago was with Simon Finmbo but the bass playing style. There is so wild. And it’s so it’s got the slides and the aggression and the real. It’s got the real thump on the fretboard. That’s like 1969 or something that real thump on the fretboard that you get with pcyclchbilly basists.
18:16.75
Dr Patio Rage
Well I was listening I was um I was I didn’t know who Pentagram was when I was putting this together so I did a bit of investigation because yeah, the base the basis is he’s not really a folk basis. He’s more for jazz basis and he’s almost like straight up jazz basis.
18:30.15
Andrew Culture
Um, yeah.
18:34.71
Dr Patio Rage
Who’s just happens to be in a folk band. Ah, and um I looked at one of the sort of seminal recordings and it has a cover of a mus. Ah.
18:44.44
Andrew Culture
Good right? because I’m I’m on a journey well me and my wife are on a journey with with kind of with to the land of psych folk. Um, but kind of folk in general because I’ve I’m yet to hear anything by pentangle that that I didn’t like I need to find an album I Want to.
18:46.74
Dr Patio Rage
Where you go.
19:02.30
Andrew Culture
Lot of bands that I get into I want to find a jumping in point.
19:06.21
Dr Patio Rage
Um, well he he I mean yeah, he the the the whole band didn’t do it was. It’s more like ah it’s a solo bass rendition and to take on a mus song as a solo basis. Ah means you got to have your chops and um, the guy. The guy’s very Impressive. He’s a really really good basis. Yeah, and he I don’t get what’s folk about him whatsoever. He is jazz.
19:27.53
Andrew Culture
Danny Thompson I think his name is yeah.
19:33.63
Andrew Culture
I love that that’s cool I’ll I’ll put the clip I’ll put the live recording studio recording in the cod words is not good happening today I’ll put I put the video in the show notes wo.
19:47.31
Dr Patio Rage
Sure next track.
20:20.27
Andrew Culture
Ah, what a car What the that was beautifully done the Sam I Really like that ah listener I’m normally the one who who does what we call the clipping You know’s getting getting the tracks together but that that’s wonderful. Just just get the do so.
20:22.00
Dr Patio Rage
The third.
20:37.80
Dr Patio Rage
Yeah, ah, ah, can you guess no guns and roses ah guns and roses the trackers my Michelle and it’s from the first album which is one of the greatest.
20:38.28
Andrew Culture
Who was that ah Rush is about as close as I can get ah no I wouldn’t know wouldn’t know at all.
20:53.30
Dr Patio Rage
Debut albums by only band ever. Um, use your illusion. You know it’s not use your losing. That’s one might do ah appetite for destruction. Um.
20:59.86
Andrew Culture
Lies was first wasn’t it. That’s not their first album. No, it’s not well. No I’m not going to argue with I know nothing about guns and roses apart from the fact I lost a girlfriend once because I told her slash was shit.
21:14.21
Dr Patio Rage
Ah, well you were wrong. Um, and ah it was the basis called Duth Mckegan I think um is a completely underrated musician I think he gives guns n and roses. It’s actually unique chord sensibility.
21:18.92
Andrew Culture
7
21:31.65
Dr Patio Rage
Because I’ve heard solo albums of his and he plays actually through that whole Album. He plays really nice melodic lines and a little fun to play and I just love that intro sort of like you know it’s He’s Big. He’s playing a lead line basically with a bass. And then you have that growl when he hits that. Um, yeah, and it just sort of like you have this gentle sort of intro and then you just have that like this is the aggression that is just hinted at that’s going to hit you in a second and it’s just really, really nicely though.
21:49.27
Andrew Culture
Oh yeah, that’s lovely. The the little low. No.
22:03.70
Andrew Culture
The most eloquent and appealing description of anything to do with go and mos I’ve ever heard he was he was committing what a younger Andrew Younger me would have thought of as a base crime during that he had a bit of chorus and a bit of flanger on it which.
22:05.80
Dr Patio Rage
Beautiful peace of all christian.
22:22.30
Andrew Culture
Was such an eighty s thing and I I considered it a crime against base humanity until I got into or heard some early Oh God Magazine who was the basis of magazine. Oh sure I’m gonna have to look it out but I barry.
22:22.66
Dr Patio Rage
She.
22:34.20
Dr Patio Rage
I Don’t know. Yeah.
22:40.24
Andrew Culture
Barry something I’m going to look it out but Barry don’t because I’ll I’ll go yeah probably ah but magazine. So the band that was formed after it was like a splinter of of the buzzcocks and I got given a copy of Barry Adams and but Barry Adams fuck’s sake
22:41.84
Dr Patio Rage
Bobby Barry Giber Gibbons
22:59.81
Andrew Culture
Barry Adamson was the bassist and he uses that that sort sort slimylandery thing but your solo album’s really really really good really brilliant in fact if you like some of the the current 6 music hot stuff like um.
23:05.45
Dr Patio Rage
For him.
23:18.21
Andrew Culture
The the tear the son of the guy who was did hit me with your rhythm stick This is terrible backxter Jury if you like backs to jury stuff which I do I think it’s It’s really interesting, really interesting music.
23:27.16
Dr Patio Rage
Um, and Jerry’s son
23:35.51
Andrew Culture
Then yeah, the Barry Adams and our solo stuff’s well worth looking up so they go that’s that’s the longest conversation or anyone’s ever had around base flanger.
23:42.96
Dr Patio Rage
He flashing That’s true because you know it is a mostly very rarely used thing next thing talking about a flaer bassist come on that.
24:24.10
Andrew Culture
1 of the joys of of doing the podcast and listening to music through I’ve got like you know studio monting headphones is I hear stuff in tracks that I’ve known for thirty years that I’ve never heard before there’s little squeaky top bits in the I heard and that was blur with won’t do it which was.
24:33.79
Dr Patio Rage
In her.
24:42.65
Andrew Culture
1 of the b sides of the remix of there’s no other way because sometimes a single would be released and the record label would release a remix for single version. In fact, that’s the only time I can think of ever happening. But Alex James the ah tori cheesemaker his base his base playing on that is I based.
24:47.17
Dr Patio Rage
Um.
25:01.84
Andrew Culture
All my bases playing pretty much on that track when I first started and I couldn’t I couldn’t play like that for shit I can’t think of anyone who can it’s just all over the place. It’s It’s got to be have. He’s got to have a natural ear. He’s got to have an ability just to let his fingers.
25:07.54
Dr Patio Rage
Um, ah.
25:19.67
Andrew Culture
Do what he wants I can’t even I can’t even imagine that’s actually written that basis.
25:24.36
Dr Patio Rage
I Think he’s quite I was thinking this and I’ll get to it in a bit but um, yeah, he’s a sadly you know great bass player player and I think we should do maybe our next one on musicians that we hate. But also we really love that.
25:40.89
Andrew Culture
Ah, don’t hate him I don’t hate him I think he’s a bell end. But.
25:41.81
Dr Patio Rage
Expression I I don’t know I saw I like saw his Instagram and not okay people people we don’t enjoy the exposure of in other forms than their music. Um, ah, but. Yeah, it’s it’s ever. It. It has like it has relationship to what? ah that cream bassist was doing as well which was over ever so slightly going off on its own thing but then sort of pulling it back and being and being um, sort of the point. Of connection between the whole band.
26:22.00
Andrew Culture
Love Graham Coxton’s guitar playing on that. It’s like Robert Fripp in a really bad mood or something. Yeah, it’s brilliant. Love it.
26:30.89
Dr Patio Rage
I just want to make noise. Ah, okay, next one next one next one
26:46.28
Dr Patio Rage
Ah.
26:56.90
Dr Patio Rage
With the given. Yes.
27:05.79
Andrew Culture
Wow Queen was gonna come up soon or later with with your choices.
27:09.43
Dr Patio Rage
He’s yeah I mean John Deacon is amazing. Um, talk about a base that who has a natural ear. Joey Deakin is amazing as well. Ah.
27:19.36
Andrew Culture
Ah, sorry, um, that could go to hell for that queen bas joey de and god that’s gonna mean nothing to someone who who didn’t grow up watching blue peter in the 80 s let’s just.
27:29.18
Dr Patio Rage
Ah, but yeah, so what? I loved about that was sort of the the song is um is a master class I think in a way that um, every John Deaken base bass line is a master class but that one is particularly good in that he is um. He’s particularly brilliant at evolving a bassline and the whole band is is like this I’m not sure so much about the drums but um, certainly Brian may and Freddie Mercury and ah John deacon were brilliant at making all their parts. Ah, movements rather than I’m just going to play the same 4 bases riff 4 times.
28:11.90
Andrew Culture
Never considered that at all it is is one of the many joys of doing this podcast is you You really open. You’ve really enhanced my my listening ability.
28:26.10
Dr Patio Rage
We do? Ah yeah, you’ve done the same for me. But but for me learned I learned how to play this is all again. This is a song that I I learned how to play the bass riff of and it’s so cleverly put together because it’s sort of like the first. Time he plays that those first time they use those chords the bass is playing a similar thing but it’s different and then the next time they play it. He’s getting more and he goes from being very straightforward to them being more elaborate to them being even more elaborate and there’s also like all these nice sort of punctuation. He’s his syncopation. Game is next to you know us next level compared to a lot of people and yeah, ah I just think that it’s a master class and restraint in a way because he’s sort of hinting at what he could do and how far he could go but he’s going actually I’m just going to keep everything. On and only emphasize things that and only bring it in things that are sort of interesting to bring in rather than having to play every single note they can play all the time which is an interesting thing to go on to our next classic british pop group.
30:08.60
Dr Patio Rage
I mean listening to things in 30 seconds just allows you to get to a detail that you might otherwise skip. Ah thanks for recording your snot. Mr Rotten is him go.
30:17.12
Andrew Culture
Is that what it is oh dick I didn’t get that I like the beginning of that track that the start is so weird. It’s so it’s like I didn’t even know if they like put their hands on the reel to reel when they were doing the master transfer or something. But.
30:26.22
Dr Patio Rage
A a.
30:36.30
Andrew Culture
There’s also something weird happens with the bass you play Again. So I wanted to hear the snot but listen the bass or goes wrong. There What is there Oh hear. It.
30:53.90
Dr Patio Rage
Just.
31:09.26
Andrew Culture
Yeah I hear it all now Sammy you right? Sams have a co fit here. So if you if you’re not checked out Youtube yet then then skip to the 31 minute Mark of this episode if you want to see Sam ah is osophagus trying to leave his face and so that.
31:10.81
Dr Patio Rage
Um, oh.
31:21.45
Dr Patio Rage
Try not to drink try not to drink water down the wrong hole.
31:28.80
Andrew Culture
But um, just like what what you’re not seeing if you’re not watching Youtube is sam trying to drink water like an elephant but using his cock instead of his snail. Um, so that that was pop tones by now I’m not sure at that phase whether it was pill or public image limited. I get a bit hazy on on when it changes but that basis was jarl wobble and that’s just it’s so good I don’t like I can’t even say what’s so great about jar wobble is is almost like playing dub. But that’s that’s um.
31:49.38
Dr Patio Rage
Go wobbles.
31:56.40
Dr Patio Rage
I I think it sort of has a similar aspect. Well it is complete dub but it has a similar aspect of ah like it’s related to my feelings about the first slits album which is it’s so wrong. It’s right.
32:13.74
Andrew Culture
Yeah, no, yeah yeah I know what you I know what you mean and that but that weird wrong note Um, can you hear that noise. Yeah I’m well my ah my studio is on an industrialist day which might not be the wisest of choices That’s a palette truck.
32:22.89
Dr Patio Rage
Yeah, what’s that. Ah.
32:31.54
Andrew Culture
Being dragged along by ah by there’s a place over there called? um I’m not going to say what they’re called, but it’s a place that that gathers tools together and sends them to Africa which is which Bush is smart was a good thing. Ah right I have literally got a couple of minutes and I’m going to have to.
32:42.77
Dr Patio Rage
Good, Nice. Okay I I have to do this I had to do this center I’m sorry.
32:49.78
Andrew Culture
Go. So.
33:22.20
Andrew Culture
They were a big famous band Big famous band.
33:23.94
Dr Patio Rage
I was so tempted I was ah I was so tempted to do all my choices as primus. Yes, it was I had to pull myself back because otherwise I mean it would have worked for a short episode Actually it would have worked really well.
33:31.66
Andrew Culture
Ah, do them all primus.
33:41.27
Dr Patio Rage
His’s prime again. Um not.
33:43.40
Andrew Culture
God that’s almost like a joke from ah from airplane. There is you know I’d like some light reading right? His just like famous straight tennis players or something like that you know, ah the shortest episode. Ah Queen’s best hip hop and just like just nothing.
33:51.80
Dr Patio Rage
Um, but.
33:59.72
Dr Patio Rage
Um.
34:00.37
Andrew Culture
But suppose under pressure possibly. Um, yeah, so that was Primus and what nonsense was that.
34:06.41
Dr Patio Rage
That was Jerry Ah Jerry was a waste race car driver and that album that album sold has sold over a million copies in the us alone. How weird is that you.
34:10.25
Andrew Culture
Ah, can you guess can you get like can you get like Stockholm syndrome with bands but like you you hate it so much and then you hear it so many times it starts to sound familiar and you start to enjoy it.
34:26.47
Dr Patio Rage
Well, that’s why I feel like about Queen’s eighty s most of queen eighty eighty s output but I’ve heard it so much I start to really love it. Um, and you got to go.
34:38.11
Andrew Culture
I know I’ve just remembered that we’ve got. We’ve got some correspondence shit I need to find it.
34:42.30
Dr Patio Rage
I just I just I just don’t understand I mean I understand the voice is repulsive and it’s like yeah, it’s it’s up there with one of those voices of like you gotta you know it’s hard to it’s hard. It’s a hard thing to love. But the music I mean. The guitar line is so good and the bass is just so unique. You know there? What’s that there’s that thing where said win amp used to have when you used to sort of put together all your stuff and you start to put them into genres winapp had 1 genre which was just primus. Yeah, we had 1 do you know want to do what you don’t want to cut you don’t want to you don’t want to comment anymore and your relationship to Primus I’ve got I’ve got.
35:21.96
Andrew Culture
Ah, really win amp it really whips. The Lama’s ass so it used to say I’m desperately trying to find the correspondence. Um, ah gone you.
35:35.13
Andrew Culture
Have you got the correspondence now.
35:40.63
Dr Patio Rage
1 from your friend Gareth patch who said I like the way you Andrew said JC in the lockerbillies all the way through the podcast.
35:44.12
Andrew Culture
Um.
35:49.12
Andrew Culture
Yeah, so the the last live review I spoke with great enthusiasm about JC and the lockerbillies and they are in fact, called Js and the lockerbillies which ah yeah, um, may not be ah accurate. But I am consistently inaccurate.
36:00.67
Dr Patio Rage
Um.
36:04.65
Andrew Culture
I had a ton of correspondence that is really really special. But I’m not going to cram it into this episode. So I’ll put it into the next one I’m going to have to go right now because I’ve got another meeting another meeting I’ve got a meeting starting in 4 minutes and I’m a middle aged man who needs the toilet.
36:20.83
Dr Patio Rage
Just use the just just go in the the glass I can see the glass it already looks like Piss Egg radioactive.
36:27.21
Andrew Culture
But it’ is it’s Baroca so my piss will come out the color of Barov Baroca anyway um you know, interesting fact the the average male’s bladder holds exactly a pint so a pint glass is just about enough even if you’re really busting.
36:44.17
Dr Patio Rage
So why not give it go you? Okay Andrew thank you very much for your company. Love me to see you I know I know I know thanks dad I’m gonna I’m gonna stop the podcast now.
36:46.50
Andrew Culture
I Didn’t try why not give air go I’m I’m gonna go.
36:54.76
Andrew Culture
But love you, you need to press stop and then it needs to upload the. Ah.
37:03.87
Dr Patio Rage
Thank you everybody for listening goodbye good luck and have had lovely time hey hey.
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